Indefinite Detention Update…

The news is not good…

WASHINGTON — The Senate voted Tuesday to keep a controversial provision to let the military detain terrorism suspects on U.S. soil and hold them indefinitely without trial — prompting White House officials to reissue a veto threat.

The measure, part of the massive National Defense Authorization Act, was also opposed by civil libertarians on the left and right. But 16 Democrats and an independent joined with Republicans to defeat an amendment by Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) that would have killed the provision, voting it down with 61 against, and 37 for it.

“I’m very, very, concerned about having U.S. citizens sent to Guantanamo Bay for indefinite detention,” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), one of the Senate’s most conservative members.

Paul’s top complaint is that a terrorism suspect would get just one hearing where the military could assert that the person is a suspected terrorist — and then they could be locked up for life, without ever formally being charged. The only safety valve is a waiver from the secretary of defense.

 Some quick takeaways…
1. The bright spot is that Obama’s veto threat.  Provided he follows though on it.
2.  For those of you who keep screaming “Both parties are the same” and will use this vote to try to prove this point, allow me to add some annoying nuance.
While sixteen Democrats did vote “Nay” for the Amendment, 34 voted “Yay”. (With one abstention.) For those who had trouble with math in school, that twice as many.
By contrast 44 Republicans voted “Nay” while only two voted “Yay”. (With one abstention.)  Which by my rough estimate is about damn close to ALL OF THEM!
In short, more Democrats did the right thing than Republicans.  So there. Neener, neener, neener!
3. Having said that, it should in not way let the ones who voted nay off the Goddamn hook!

Democrats Voting ‘Nay’

It should be noted that a good number of these are Blue Dog Democrats who voted “Nay” either out of ideology or fear of being tarred by a future opponent as being soft on terrorism.  If you live in any of the states they represent, a polite but firmly worded letter or telephone call may be in order.
4. The Independent who voted “Nay” was Joe Lieberman.  I’ll give you a moment to recover from the shock.

5. Both Wyden and Merkley from my state of Oregon voted “Yay”.  Seriously, you guys are spoiling me.  Keep it up.

6.  Let me make this point again.  It is no longer enough to elect just Democrats.  We need real authentic progressives in office if we’re to get any forward motion.  So if you sat out the election last time to teach the Democrats a lesson, DON’T DO THAT AGAIN!!!! VOTE YOU APATHETIC HIPSTER FUCKS, VOTE!!!!!
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  1. Pingback: Obama, indefinite detention and a call for some form of unity. « News from the Front

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